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How Could I Not Get It????
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duceditor
Squier-Axpert
For others interested. Amazon is again taking orders for these at the same low price. They say they should have them again and will charge and ship as soon as they come in.
-don
-don
Radiotech
Squier-Axpert
I've done this twice before, three, and five months respectively ans was still waiting... cancelled both.
IJGAP-300 (Acoustasonic JM copy), and IJG-200 (burst):
duceditor
Squier-Axpert
Were they instruments they (Amazon) had actually carried and sold? That they said was temporarily out of stock?
With IYV there was a time when the instruments needed a redesign to avoid legal issues. That could, I suppose become an issue here. (Hoping not!).
-don,
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jamesgpobog
Squier-holic
Don't remember if I mentioned this before, but a long long time ago, in the late 70's, I worked in the Ricky wood shop making them things...
Radiotech
Squier-Axpert
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This is discussed, and posted about on the IYV USA fb page which is run by USA side IYV folks (including one of their designers), they do this micro-batch release to gauge interest, and to pick which models to stock more of
regularly on Amazon.
Both were post re-design. I had both models on watch for when they were in stock. Amazon emailed me when they were, with the IJGAP, it was in stock when I opened the email, and in the minutes that it took me to show it to Julie, had sold out. The IJG email notification I didn't see because it happened around 4 am, and was sold out by the time I saw it at 5.Were they instruments they (Amazon) had actually carried and sold? That they said was temporarily out of stock?
With IYV there was a time when the instruments needed a redesign to avoid legal issues. That could, I suppose become an issue here. (Hoping not!).
-don,
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This is discussed, and posted about on the IYV USA fb page which is run by USA side IYV folks (including one of their designers), they do this micro-batch release to gauge interest, and to pick which models to stock more of
regularly on Amazon.
duceditor
Squier-Axpert
I suppose it's wise to foresee this possibility. Be disappointing -- but life sometimes includes that.
-don
duceditor
Squier-Axpert
FWIW... I just inquired of Amazon "what's up with this order?" and was told "this item hasn't shipped yet, but is still on
track to arrive on time."
I suppose for now that must fall into the "for what its worth" category, but it's sure better than being told that its simply not currently available.
-don
track to arrive on time."
I suppose for now that must fall into the "for what its worth" category, but it's sure better than being told that its simply not currently available.
-don
Radiotech
Squier-Axpert
Here's some coincidence for you: One of the guys who did succeed in buying the IJGAP-300's from Amazon last November when I missed out (One of the three they actually had in stock per the fb page), started an IYV buy and sell group (as the FB page put up a post that they would no longer allow selling posts on the IYV USA page), I ended up buying his for $160 shipped as you may recallI suppose it's wise to foresee this possibility. Be disappointing -- but life sometimes includes that.
-don
TimTheViking
Squier-holic
@duceditor
The bridge design looks exactly like the 12-string I have from Harley-Benton. The action is set using the four screws that go through the bridge and stand on a steel plate below it. That plate is attached to the guitar top using screws use are round-headed and prevent the bridge from being lowered enough to produce a playable action height. At least with mine. I had to remove this bottom plate and countersink the screw holes and then find flat-head screws that worked with the countersunk holes. After this mod, the bridge would now lower all the way and the action is now great making it a pretty playable 12-string.
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Tim
The bridge design looks exactly like the 12-string I have from Harley-Benton. The action is set using the four screws that go through the bridge and stand on a steel plate below it. That plate is attached to the guitar top using screws use are round-headed and prevent the bridge from being lowered enough to produce a playable action height. At least with mine. I had to remove this bottom plate and countersink the screw holes and then find flat-head screws that worked with the countersunk holes. After this mod, the bridge would now lower all the way and the action is now great making it a pretty playable 12-string.
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duceditor
Squier-Axpert
Thanks Tim!
Is your HB made in Vietnam? The one on the HB website, though it looks similar to the IYV model, is marked as having been made in China.
I have no real personal familiarity with Rickenbacker guitars. O played one only once, back in the `70s, and it had a weird neck feel.
How close are any of these semi-clones to an actual Ric? Just rough shape and design?
Are the IYV's PUPS designed and wound similarly to those on a class Ric? Or did they just put a 'Toaster'-appearing cover on a same old PUP?
One thing I found very clever is the IYV-IRK-300's basic shape. It is similar to one used on Ric's solid body guitars, but here merged (beautifully I might add) onto the basic design of a Ric hollow body.
It screams "Rickenbacker" without actually being a clone of one.
All would be just "nice" if the IYVs were merely"competitively" priced. But they're not. They sell for a fraction of their 'worth' when compared to other guitars. And the best of them show a level of quality that puts them in a higher league entirely from what their sale price suggests.
Some of the Harley Bentons I've seen (posted, not actually 'in hand'), too, are amazing values.
The guitar world is really being shakng up by guitars such as these. And we players are the winners!
-don
TimTheViking
Squier-holic
Made in China. But we all know the parts could all be identical. Trapeze looks the same, bridge looks the same, pickup covers are slightly different.Thanks Tim!
Is your HB made in Vietnam? The one on the HB website, though it looks similar to the IYV model, is marked as having been made in China.
I have no real personal familiarity with Rickenbacker guitars. O played one only once, back in the `70s, and it had a weird neck feel.
How close are any of these semi-clones to an actual Ric? Just rough shape and design?
Are the IYV's PUPS designed and wound similarly to those on a class Ric? Or did they just put a 'Toaster'-appearing cover on a same old PUP?
One thing I found very clever is the IYV-IRK-300's basic shape. It is similar to one used on Ric's solid body guitars, but here merged (beautifully I might add) onto the basic design of a Ric hollow body.
It screams "Rickenbacker" without actually being a clone of one.
All would be just "nice" if the IYVs were merely"competitively" priced. But they're not. They sell for a fraction of their 'worth' when compared to other guitars. And the best of them show a level of quality that puts them in a higher league entirely from what their sale price suggests.
Some of the Harley Bentons I've seen (posted, not actually 'in hand'), too, are amazing values.
The guitar world is really being shakng up by guitars such as these. And we players are the winners!
-don
None of the Rics have the same "horn" design as the Ric's horns come to a point where these don't. But the scratch plate sure looks the same!
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These pickups look interesting in case you don't care for the originals.Thanks Tim!
Is your HB made in Vietnam? The one on the HB website, though it looks similar to the IYV model, is marked as having been made in China.
I have no real personal familiarity with Rickenbacker guitars. O played one only once, back in the `70s, and it had a weird neck feel.
How close are any of these semi-clones to an actual Ric? Just rough shape and design?
Are the IYV's PUPS designed and wound similarly to those on a class Ric? Or did they just put a 'Toaster'-appearing cover on a same old PUP?
One thing I found very clever is the IYV-IRK-300's basic shape. It is similar to one used on Ric's solid body guitars, but here merged (beautifully I might add) onto the basic design of a Ric hollow body.
It screams "Rickenbacker" without actually being a clone of one.
All would be just "nice" if the IYVs were merely"competitively" priced. But they're not. They sell for a fraction of their 'worth' when compared to other guitars. And the best of them show a level of quality that puts them in a higher league entirely from what their sale price suggests.
Some of the Harley Bentons I've seen (posted, not actually 'in hand'), too, are amazing values.
The guitar world is really being shakng up by guitars such as these. And we players are the winners!
-don
TimTheViking
Squier-holic
I found these features amusing...
- all guitars are made punctually by CNC machine with computer programming
- Perfect neck with almost no defectiveness
- All guitars with good specification
The logical guess is that they put a toaster-like cover on a generic pickup. On the actual Ric, the toaster has six individual Alnico 2 magnets set vertically inside the coil and is scatter wound in the neighborhood of 7.4k. (whereas the High-Gain has a single ceramic magnet on the bottom, and separate polepieces).
In my view, it is the magnet that's responsible for the majority of the tone difference. The typical Toaster sound is brighter, clearer and slightly deeper, whereas the High-Gain is thicker, more midrangy and punchy - and louder. BOTH sound distinctively Rickenbacker' though - which is best just depends on the type of sound you want. Personally I prefer the Toaster on my 12 string and the High-Gains on my 6. The High-Gains can sound a bit muddy on 12-strings, and the Toasters a bit thin on 6-strings... although there are plenty of people who get along fine with either combination. Some have even mixed them!
The point here is that even if it’s not a 7.4k scatterwound with individual A2s hiding under the toaster cover doesn’t mean it won’t jangle. Time will tell!
In my view, it is the magnet that's responsible for the majority of the tone difference. The typical Toaster sound is brighter, clearer and slightly deeper, whereas the High-Gain is thicker, more midrangy and punchy - and louder. BOTH sound distinctively Rickenbacker' though - which is best just depends on the type of sound you want. Personally I prefer the Toaster on my 12 string and the High-Gains on my 6. The High-Gains can sound a bit muddy on 12-strings, and the Toasters a bit thin on 6-strings... although there are plenty of people who get along fine with either combination. Some have even mixed them!
The point here is that even if it’s not a 7.4k scatterwound with individual A2s hiding under the toaster cover doesn’t mean it won’t jangle. Time will tell!
duceditor
Squier-Axpert
Those look like cool PUPS, but they appear to be standard HB sized. Not easily interchangeable with Ric sized PUPS.
The fact that the IYV's PUPS appear to be sized like a Rics suggest that they are not just re-covered normal (as in used on other IYV guitars) PUPS. But whether IYV went so far as to use individual magnet pole pieces is something else again. If they did would they not be saying so on the various blurbs about the guitar?
In any case it'll be fun to discover the answers to all the above. And, perhaps, find a way to get ust the sound I myself am looking/hoping for.
-don
I think the only bummer would be if it was discovered that they used actual humbuckers. That’s not the recipe you’re looking for sound-wise, though the whole point is that for $150, if it plays well and looks good, it’s already a smashing success.
Did you get a delivery date yet Don?
duceditor
Squier-Axpert
GilmourD
Squier-holic
Very odd since it's being shipped by Amazon, not some rando...
