What’s my JV worth?

[JuVenile]

Hey all.

So I have an ‘84 JV in Fiesta Red that I’ve posted for sale on a couple of sites. It’s all original in very good cosmetic and operating condition. I’m offering it for 1500.00 Canadian but getting little response. I paid more than my asking price when I bought it. Does anyone want to weigh in on my pricing?

 

[Eddie]

Probably around 1 grand.

 

[dpang2836]

You paid too much! I had a 85/86 Japan Fender Thinline I bought for $500 and sold it 20 years later for only $600. Kept the Red Label Case. Probably worth $1000-$1200 now! Maybe $1000 like Eddie said.

 

[Robb]

It looks... uncanny !

 

[Tamarindo03]

Have you added pictures to your sale listing from under the pickguard and all the other important details like neck pocket, neck heel etc. to determine the originality?
The pickup screws for sure aren’t original, they should be a good bit wider than the pickguard screws. That alone to me would be a warning sign if I don’t have all the important details showed in pictures.
People don’t like taped off or censored serial numbers. There are fake plates out there. Proudly show the serial number, you got nothing to hide right?
For sure it’s a nice looking instrument.
Edit: Funny that this neck has a "65" sticker ond the back of the neck. This you normally can see on domestic Fender labeled ST57-65 and ST62-65 models, although I have seen other JV squiers that also have the sticker.

 

[Eddie]

The reality is that Squier doesn't have enough of a name to warrant a $1500 purchase. Buyers know they can get an American Professional II for about a grand.

Honestly, even if your guitar is 100% legit, I would have 0% interest. Even at $1000, I probably wouldn't either. I'm just being honest.

JV's are awesome guitars, but there are tons of other awesome guitars for the same price.

$1000 would get me a brand new FGN Odyssey .... made by Fujigen.

 

[FrieAsABird]

That is a really really nice guitar, but as other said… Squiers don’t fetch top dollar I guess

 

[Tamarindo03]

There are people that paying over 1000$ for an all original Squier JV with the large Squier logo. Reverb sold history for example is showing this, next to other sites.
These are very fine and well crafted quality instruments but like others stated before, for the same price and even lower you can buy dozens of other instruments today that quality wise playing in the same league.
There is some history behind the JV's (that doesn’t makes them different). They can be fantastic instruments in all aspects. There are people that have a sweet spot for these, or for Japanese instruments, or they know that these guitars are just suiting their likings. And then also there are people that just following the myths.
I own six JV strats. Five with rosewood, one with maple. Just two, the maple (my nr. 1) and a black one to my likings are absolutely perfect in every way, to me they are even magical. Never played other guitars that have this feeling. But then - that’s just me, my likings and my feeling.
If the fiesta red JV would be all original and would be based in Switzerland, I would buy it for that 1000$ Firstly I would hope that the neck has that same feeling to it like my Nr. 1 maple neck JV. Second - I want a fiesta red JV and would hope that the body is light and working well with the neck.

 

[dpang2836]

There are people that paying over 1000$ for an all original Squier JV with the large Squier logo. Reverb sold history for example is showing this, next to other sites.
These are very fine and well crafted quality instruments but like others stated before, for the same price and even lower you can buy dozens of other instruments today that quality wise playing in the same league.
There is some history behind the JV's (that doesn’t makes them different). They can be fantastic instruments in all aspects. There are people that have a sweet spot for these, or for Japanese instruments, or they know that these guitars are just suiting their likings. And then also there are people that just following the myths.
I own six JV strats. Five with rosewood, one with maple. Just two, the maple (my nr. 1) and a black one to my likings are absolutely perfect in every way, to me they are even magical. Never played other guitars that have this feeling. But then - that’s just me, my likings and my feeling.
If the fiesta red JV would be all original and would be based in Switzerland, I would buy it for that 1000$

Plus they are FGN made!!!!!!! I forgot to convert dollar to dollar? A little under $1100 US, so not as bad.

 

[Tamarindo03]

I have to correct myself. Maybe it’s the lighting, but these could be there original pickup screws.

 

[AllroyPA]

If you don't have to sell it don't. These are gone off production a long time ago and are akin to original Fender Vintage Specs.

 

[Eddie]

If you don't have to sell it don't. These are gone off production a long time ago and are akin to original Fender Vintage Specs.

Yes, better off keeping it.

 

[65refinyellow]

Gorgeous!!!

 

[jdean074]

Fiesta/maple is THE ONE for me if I ever get to considering a JV in life. That's a frickin beautiful guitar you have. Wish I had an extra $1000 usd floating around to offer ya for it!!!

 

[Shaytan]

Sorry to say, I'm with the others. Losing money sucks and just like it was for you, that guitar can be worth that much for the right buyer. That would be a sale I'd ponder listing on Reverb (the one place people are willing to overpay up to some extent over your typical Craigslist kind of values) while you're focusing on the specific market to a global extent that would view such a Squier as a collectible worth that much. List it, forget about it, keep an eye on your inbox and sooner or later an offer will drop - only works if you ain't in a hurry, otherwise...

Even among us, Squier heads, paying Fender kind of money for a Squier, regardless how notably good quality they are and how pristine it is, is a though call. "It was better than its contemporary Fenders" betcha it was, but precise machined US (if not MIM) Fenders of present day with a reputation to uphold will match if not surpass them while intrinsically holding that value, an ever present consideration when you're spending over an average person's monthly salary on - let's all be honest for a second, here - a grown up hobby toy.

 

[AllroyPA]

I'll say it one last time, don't sell it. Now I can sleep.

 

[stratmanshow]

The answers you have received so far mostly point out what your problem is with selling a "Squier" in the market today. Yes, you can buy a lot of good alternatives for that price, but if someone wants a JV Squier in (what looks to be) very good original condition, $1100 USD is not unreasonable IMO, (but in Canada, $1500 CAD has a different impression). There are plenty of "lesser" models such as SQ and E serials being offered for that kind of price.
The lack of interest you have experienced so far may be due to the market you are trying to sell it in. Localized classifieds like FB Marketplace, CL, Kij, Used(your city) etc. will have a more limited audience for a "JV" other than those looking for a bargain. To everyone not in the know, it's just an overpriced "Squier". World markets like ebay and reverb would be the way to go, and even then it make take a while, but there will eventually be someone who really wants what you have and is already willing to pay more to get one.

Judging from your pics it looks in excellent condition which is pretty rare. As previously mentioned, more detailed info (pics) would be needed. The "65" sticker is interesting in that when new, it cost the same as the domestic Fender badged lowest price models of a few months before. (or a year)
Edit: why the heck do you want to sell it?
Your price is cheaper than this Fiesta JV on Reverb

 

[the_dude]

I wouldn't sell it if it was mine

I recently saw a SST-30 JV at a thrift shop here in Japan last week and they wanted about $540 for it. It was a lower end Squire (with large logo) from 84 that was made for the domestic market.



Yours would be from a higher line (could be one that was for export as the SST line was for the Japanese market at the time), so $1000 USD does not sound too out of whack. But again, I wouldn't sell it 😉

 

[jdean074]

Even among us, Squier heads, paying Fender kind of money for a Squier, regardless how notably good quality they are and how pristine it is, is a though call.

I can say with a straight face that I would take a JV or Vista series over a comparably priced American Performer or something like that, 10 times out of 10, 7 days a week. My own Tele Special collects dust when all these kooked-out Partscasters are what I pick up. More interested in quirks than the clout of that F-word

 

[Shaytan]

I can say with a straight face that I would take a JV or Vista series over a comparably priced American Performer or something like that, 10 times out of 10, 7 days a week. My own Tele Special collects dust when all these kooked-out Partscasters are what I pick up. More interested in quirks than the clout of that F-word

Yeah, it’s fair enough. I wouldn’t buy an Am Performer just like I wouldn’t an equally priced Squier because I don’t have nor could I justify spending over a grand on a guitar. If I could, I’d proudly pick an old MIJ Squier for the right price, but if I had a grand to spend on a musical instrument, I’d go for the Fender (in fact, I wouldn’t go for either, but rather pick an LTD or an Ibanez, but let’s stick with apples to apples).

Simple reasoning? Identical instrument I’d be sure I could get my money back if need be. I’ve just graduated, I don’t know how my life’s gonna be in the near future and I wish to move out ASAP, that’s an important consideration in my current life situation.

EDIT: I hadn't proof read this post of mine and I've now realized I was rambling quite a lot to make a simple point. I've deleted the unnecessary parts to make it a simpler and clearer read!