My Squier A-serial

stratmanshow

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Feb 7, 2014
486
North Cowichan BC Canada
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I'm currently looking for a photo of the Squier A-series, there is nothing, there is a Fender, but not a Squire, could you share a photo of the Squire A-series?

his one is not the same as the from the original post.
Yes, the OP is a CST. You're showing a Silver Series from 92-3? I am aware of the many variations and models. I have 2 JV's 2 SQ's and 2 E's and a Silver Series but I wish I had an early one from my avatar if only cause I think it is the coolest logo:). But at least some those early exports ones had Sen bodies so they were slightly different from the domestic Fender.
 

the_dude

Squier-Nut
Feb 17, 2021
757
Japan
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Yes, the OP is a CST. You're showing a Silver Series from 92-3? I am aware of the many variations and models. I have 2 JV's 2 SQ's and 2 E's and a Silver Series but I wish I had an early one from my avatar if only cause I think it is the coolest logo:). But at least some those early exports ones had Sen bodies so they were slightly different from the domestic Fender.
My silver series is an L serial, so 91/92 (pots put it to 91)

I still suspect that most of the guitars produced in the first year or two of Fender Japan's existence used of lot of the Greco Super Real parts. After all, one of the partners in the original Fender Japan venture was Kanda Shokai - who was the company behind the Greco brand and one of the conditions of the partnership was that Kanada Shokai would stop producing Fender copies under the Greco brand. A lot of the Greco Super Reals were made of Sen (sometimes called Japanese Ash). Greco and Fender Japan were both made by Fujigen.

My 1984 Fernandes (made by Tokai) is Alder but my 91/92 Fender Japan TL52 is Japanese Ash (Sen)
 
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stratmanshow

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Feb 7, 2014
486
North Cowichan BC Canada
I still suspect that most of the guitars produced in the first year or two of Fender Japan's existence used of lot of the Greco Super Real parts. After all, one of the partners in the original Fender Japan venture was Kanda Shokai - who was the company behind the Greco brand
Oh ya, I think that's been well established. I don't know what happened with 21frets.com but it used to have some nice history/info pages describing the early stages with pics (of assumed Greco bodies) showing off some of the early beauties. You can still browse the "registry" where early serials will turn up pics like this one..
http://www.21frets.com/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1303651940/s-new/
As for the SS, they also have a story with many differences between domestic/export and year made...but a topic for a new thread
 

Tamarindo03

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Mar 18, 2017
666
Lucerne
My silver series is an L serial, so 91/92 (pots put it to 91)

I still suspect that most of the guitars produced in the first year or two of Fender Japan's existence used of lot of the Greco Super Real parts. After all, one of the partners in the original Fender Japan venture was Kanda Shokai - who was the company behind the Greco brand and one of the conditions of the partnership was that Kanada Shokai would stop producing Fender copies under the Greco brand. A lot of the Greco Super Reals were made of Sen (sometimes called Japanese Ash). Greco and Fender Japan were both made by Fujigen.

My 1984 Fernandes (made by Tokai) is Alder but my 91/92 Fender Japan TL52 is Japanese Ash (Sen)
That’s true that some "Greco" parts were used. Some early 62 JV‘s having pearl dots and some also the hexagon truss rod nut. If you google "1982 62 JV" you will find several examples. Also the sen bodies you stated.
I have the very rare 1982 Squier Jeff Beck JV and I’m pretty sure they also used leftover parts from the Greco Jeff Beck model - even the Squier Jeff Beck JV's were made just in October and November of 1982, so already a few months in of production at Fujgen for Fender.
 

the_dude

Squier-Nut
Feb 17, 2021
757
Japan
That’s true that some "Greco" parts were used. Some early 62 JV‘s having pearl dots and some also the hexagon truss rod nut. If you google "1982 62 JV" you will find several examples. Also the sen bodies you stated.
I have the very rare 1982 Squier Jeff Beck JV and I’m pretty sure they also used leftover parts from the Greco Jeff Beck model - even the Squier Jeff Beck JV's were made just in October and November of 1982, so already a few months in of production at Fujgen for Fender.
Yeah - standard practice for sure.

In 1999 I bought an Epiphone SG70 here in Japan - this modal was for the Japanese market only. It was a short run about about 2 and a half years (98' to 01). There were some Les Paul, SGs, Explorers, ES-335s etc. They were all made by the Fujigen factory. I am certain that they were leftovers from the Orville (by Gibson) line as the license with Gibson expired for that brand in 1998 (of Orvilles were also made by Fujigen).
 


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